Internships in outsourcing companies (St. Petersburg, Moscow time)?
Good evening everyone.
I have been working as a programmer for a small regional company for half a year. Education, unfortunately, is not IT, at the beginning of 2015 I decided to study programming, chose Java as one of the most popular and easy to learn, taught myself for half a year, then from last fall to this spring, I studied in St. Petersburg at courses at the Polytechnic University, after completing the courses he started looking for a job in St. Petersburg for 2 months Unfortunately, I couldn't find it, I returned home, after 10 days I went to work)
However, I was not very happy and continued to look for vacancies, simultaneously mastering a new workplace, enrolled in English courses after work, and solved test tasks at night.
After 4 months, I stopped coding at night because I would have simply died of overwork if I had continued.
During the search, I realized that companies in the Russian Federation (with customers from the Russian Federation / CIS), perhaps with the exception of Yandex, Kaspersky and a couple of large ones, are far from the best example of the IT community. You can write for a long time about the mess that is happening at all levels, I think this has already been discussed more than once.
In Yandex, Kaspersky, MailRU it was not possible to get through due to the lack of mathematical training / technical. crusts, change the awl for soap (other companies), even with a slightly higher salary, I don't see much point. (after finding a suitable vacancy, I look for employee reviews and there, like a carbon copy, the same problems as in my current job)
In the process of searching, while I was in St. Petersburg, I went for an interview at ReturnOnIntelligence , after successfully passing the test task , talked with HR, then with a technical specialist for an hour and a half, this was the first interview in IT, so the pallor of my face, shaking cold hands and emptiness in my head "helped" me, although I liked everything else, then I still applied for T-Systems , but it failed because of English.
Finally, the most important thing , I would like to know what internships you know in outsourcing companies, preferably in St. Petersburg or Moscow time, like those I mentioned above. Basic wishes:
1) there is an opportunity to intern / study in the process of work GENERAL FRAMEWORKS and technologies (and not stir up a huge glitchy propietary that no one outside the office needs), Spring / Hibernate / Maven, etc.
2) the company works only / mainly with foreign customers.
3) official design
4) the possibility of career growth and salary growth
5) paid or free internship and also the level of the initial salary is only of third-rate importance, the main thing is to get a job in a good company, where order and everything is according to the mind.
Thank you for your responses)Java Xavier Gordon, Jan 18, 2020
there is an opportunity to intern / learn in the process of work GENERAL frameworks and technologies (and not stir up a huge glitchy prophecy that no one outside the office needs), Spring / Hibernate / Maven, etc.
This is obvious - if the company is not purely IT-shnaya, then its programmers serve a certain enterprise and only it.
the company works only / mainly with foreign customers
And you in vain set it as a criterion.
There are a lot of those who like to save money among foreign customers - and any technology requires additional. costs.
They rightly hope that you will be given a touch of technology if we are talking about very large (a couple of years long) orders.
On the other hand, due to the fact that Google is promoting its ready-made tools, the same androids work with quite modern technologies. Even small firms.
career and salary growth opportunities
You don't have to worry. Novice programmers grow very quickly.
And salary too.
Then growth slows down.
paid or free internship and also the level of the initial salary is only of a third-rate importance, the main thing is to get a job in a good company, where everything is in order and everything is in mind.
Nobody needs you in a cool company - to mess with you.
You are still a junior - you need an eye and an eye. And if you learn, there is a great chance that you will leave. Therefore, there is no motivation for companies to babysit you too much.
But the small one will take you with pleasure.
It makes sense to practice in such small ones before they take you to the big one with pleasure.
School is over.
Nobody needs to teach you. The person learns himself. If you don’t do it, they won’t pull you.Aria Ochoa
Foreign company / customers and
failed because of Englishslightly inconsistent.
It seems Epam has a school in St. Petersburg.Anonymous
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